Day On... I mean, 1st 24 hour period.

[capfalcon]

So, this thing is here.

I'm not sure what else to put here, but here it is.

Remember, we need a kill and a seer target.

[phyphor]

Since we only get one kill for every true day, we might as well submit it late so we don't collide with the votekills

[maxfrost]

well, according to the villager PM, there are 3 vigs out there. So with the mafia kill, there's going to be 8 kills a night.

3 vig
1 mafia
4 vote

[niceguy]

I think we should fish around some of the early votes, say pick 2 together that were in a wagon.

With those, we should kill and seer some early wagoneers.

So, I propose either the following:

Either

seer leopardis and kill Sir Fab

or

Seer Raiden and kill Dunaden

We may be able to see if we can get any early affiliations that way. It's most likely that it's totally random, but we could get lucky.

The side effect of this is if we kill some wagoneers, then we can work on controlling the wagon.

[capfalcon]

Nov 11, 2010 20:27:49 GMT -5 maxfrost said:

well, according to the villager PM, there are 3 vigs out there. So with the mafia kill, there's going to be 8 kills a night.

3 vig
1 mafia
4 vote

I think there's more than one mafia. Probably one per day.

[phyphor]

We have 10 people. Are you really suggesting 40 of 50 people are mafia? (Barring people in multiple mafias)


edit: I think it's more likely to be able to win via the secondary: or if any Incarnation of the Time Cube completes their special win condition

[niceguy]

There's 4 time oriented groups. Each is a different day. They're not going to be networked, though.

We don't need to kill everyone.

We just need to kill all but one day of people. If we can get one day with a leg up on the others, it'll make it easier in the long run.

We'd also be fishing for neuts and masons. People who either don't care about their vote or are voting as a block.

there's probably 4 groups of masons.

[phyphor]

You win if the mafia outnumbers the village, or if any Incarnation of the Time Cube completes their special win condition.

That's pretty simple, combined with the village PM that means that all normal villagers have no connection to any of the days. I would be surprised if there are 4 mason groups out there.

The assumed 3 vigs are a misreading of the role PM. There are probably vig roles, but what Rend was saying was that the village is basically the same as a traditional one + 3 village controlled vigs, a way of describing the extra votes

[niceguy]

It almost looks like they might be right... but, there's some sort of struggle going on between the four days. Whatever works. As long as one of the days comes out on top and makes it so that there's only, oh, ONE DAY PER DAY, you're pretty much cool with it.

So, there are 4 groups associated with a day. They may not be villagers, but if they are not, then there are 4 other mafia groups out there. If the days are mafia, then we'd be even better off looking into the early votes and see who's throwing them away.

[phyphor]

Yes, I'm going on the assumption that those are the Incarnations of the Time Cube and are either solo or very very small groups

[crimsoncoyote]

I'd just like to point out that we have a seer... which means SHIT IS GONNA BE CRAZY. There's likely a lot more at work than just those few Incarnations.

[Roman]

Yeah i think phyphor's assumption is the correct one. Lets pick our targets as late as possible and work on getting a vote counting system for the moment so we can tell who's eating the vote.

[phyphor]

Well this is one phalla where we don't kill the spreadsheeter

[Roman]

the vote close will traditionally be in a few hours right? do we need targets before then?

[phyphor]

Maybe? The 9pm day hasn't even started so do we have a kill yet?

Anyway, I read over the PM and we're kinda screwed for our kill too. Let's say we submit it at 8PM, before the "end of day," then the person we target would die 3 cycles later at the end of the 3pm day and I suppose we would get results at the next 9pm summary... I think